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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 18:24:54 GMT -5
How is it possible that Gambrills 10u is #2 in the state? They lost to Lakeshore twice. That is a slap in the face to Calvert Tide and Manchester.
Ok ok Gambrills is undefeated in MABA, who cares who is even in MABA anymore.
Tide is consistently in the ship in every tourney and Manchester is right there.
Olney is definitely a true #1, no questions asked.
Pasadena #10 that's a joke I hope, they don't even deserve to be in the conversation.
This is a total joke to say the least. Can't wait to hear some of the Gambrills comments!
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Post by Thedude on May 26, 2018 12:27:46 GMT -5
The same reason Calvert is 3 and Delmarva Aces east beat them last week 9-2 with ease. Don’t think they had a hit the last 3 innings.
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Post by Thedude on May 26, 2018 12:31:25 GMT -5
The fact that anyone cares about 10u rankings for travel ball is comical also. Develop the players the hell with a ranking
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Post by Thedude on May 26, 2018 14:15:23 GMT -5
Meanwhile y’all keep ranking 10u teams and we will keep developing kids to play at next level and teaching them the game.
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Post by hitman on May 27, 2018 19:16:36 GMT -5
I agree taking these rankings too seriously is a joke. Not enough information to truly make a ranking system at these ages, pre high school. Some teams use league games to develop players and especially pitching. Others play all 12 kids all weekend in tournaments, while others go after it with 9 at different stages of a tournament. There may be some accuracy with them but trying to nitpick between a lot of the teams that go back and forth is ridiculous. What are the qualifers for rankings, who is making them, how bias are they, what information do you have other than GC and tournament web site results?
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Post by Thedude on May 28, 2018 5:53:26 GMT -5
I agree taking these rankings too seriously is a joke. Not enough information to truly make a ranking system at these ages, pre high school. Some teams use league games to develop players and especially pitching. Others play all 12 kids all weekend in tournaments, while others go after it with 9 at different stages of a tournament. There may be some accuracy with them but trying to nitpick between a lot of the teams that go back and forth is ridiculous. What are the qualifers for rankings, who is making them, how bias are they, what information do you have other than GC and tournament web site results? At least someone gets it! |
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Post by DHicks on May 29, 2018 9:52:24 GMT -5
Rankings have no effect on development of players...nor development of coaches. Rankings are rankings, and if the kids work hard than they deserve to be recognized. Rankings may not be your choice of recognition, but they are interesting for fans, coaches, and overall health of MD baseball. Rankings, if accurate, are a good form of measurement. We will forever be measured in our lives and there is nothing that can change that.
"If you can't measure it, you can't improve it."- Peter Drucker
"what information do you have other than GC and tournament web site results?"....What other resources are there?
"Meanwhile y’all keep ranking 10u teams and we will keep developing kids to play at next level and teaching them the game."....what does that even mean? Those that do the rankings are wasting time and should be spending that very second developing kids for the "next level" (what exactly is the next level?)?
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Post by noname on May 29, 2018 10:45:34 GMT -5
Pasadena at 10 is a complete joke. There are several teams in the "consideration" sections that would 10 run them on a daily bases. They couldn't get by API RED. That's API B team.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 10:52:18 GMT -5
Olney at 1 is spot on.
Gambrills at 2 is a headscratcher.
Should be:
Olney
Delmarva Aces East
Tide
Lakeshore
Manchester
Elkridge
Gambrills
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Post by Hitman1 on May 29, 2018 11:17:04 GMT -5
Gambrills fan . I understand that there is not much to go off other than that but the point is, all games are not created equal at these young ages where some value development and saving arms compared to others. I know some 12u teams that have pitched the same kid for over 200 pitches in a weekend. So if you just look at a small sample size of games. 1 team could of had their number 6 Pitcher throwing and the other has their number 1. If you just say ok so in so beat them one time so that must mean they’re better, it’s not real accurate. My only comment is that these should be taken with a grain of salt. Unless you know for sure the teams were going at each other with their best a few times, head to head on a Sunday then I don’t think it’s possible to judge too accurately. That’s all I can say.
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Post by DHicks on May 29, 2018 11:23:15 GMT -5
It's the same with all age groups. Typically, weekday league games the shutdown pitchers are not being used and same with friday/saturday pool games. Sunday elimination games should have more weight than the previously mentioned games. With that said and as teams gets older, the best ones win more often no matter who they throw.
Personally, I have never looked at the 10u rankings. I've briefly looked at the 11u, and I have full data on the 13u.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 20:06:02 GMT -5
So I just got back on but thedude said why is Calvert Tide 3 when they lost to Delmarva Aces. I guess why should the Aces be on here period, didn't they loose to Hickory, who isn't on here at all? One game doesn't mean a team shouldn't be where they are. The Orioles beat the Yankees once and a great while soooooo.... The Aces are a great team but don't get to see these teams on the west side of the bridge often, but then I guess the shockers should be in the top 4-5 beating Lakeshore twice.
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Post by Thedude on May 30, 2018 18:39:43 GMT -5
So I just got back on but thedude said why is Calvert Tide 3 when they lost to Delmarva Aces. I guess why should the Aces be on here period, didn't they loose to Hickory, who isn't on here at all? One game doesn't mean a team shouldn't be where they are. The Orioles beat the Yankees once and a great while soooooo.... The Aces are a great team but don't get to see these teams on the west side of the bridge often, but then I guess the shockers should be in the top 4-5 beating Lakeshore twice. Shockers really should be on there I would put them ahead of us. We had two TeamSnap on shore shockers and us that can compete with anyone the western shore throws out there. But at end of day to rank 10u teams is joke because it’s not like we all play same tourneys or leagues. We play solid teams from jersey, pa, va all the time and beat them or compete. Shore doesn’t get respect but anytime any of the team from western shore want to come down for a two piece set on a free weekend let us know. I’m sure shockers would be willing to jump in also. |
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Post by Thedude on May 30, 2018 18:47:05 GMT -5
So I just got back on but thedude said why is Calvert Tide 3 when they lost to Delmarva Aces. I guess why should the Aces be on here period, didn't they loose to Hickory, who isn't on here at all? One game doesn't mean a team shouldn't be where they are. The Orioles beat the Yankees once and a great while soooooo.... The Aces are a great team but don't get to see these teams on the west side of the bridge often, but then I guess the shockers should be in the top 4-5 beating Lakeshore twice. Shockers really should be on there I would put them ahead of us. We had two TeamSnap on shore shockers and us that can compete with anyone the western shore throws out there. But at end of day to rank 10u teams is joke because it’s not like we all play same tourneys or leagues. We play solid teams from jersey, pa, va all the time and beat them or compete. Shore doesn’t get respect but anytime any of the team from western shore want to come down for a two piece set on a free weekend let us know. I’m sure shockers would be willing to jump in also. No one has a complaint with white marsh being on here and last time we played them last year run rule and no hitter. They beat us the year before. Like I said there really is no reason to rank 10u baseball if you don’t play in same tourneys or leagues. |
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Post by loudcoachsteve on May 31, 2018 14:22:20 GMT -5
10u baseball rankings is really the most consistent of teams, any of the teams on this list could beat the other on any given day. If you look at Whitemarsh has beat Hickory, Hickory beat the Aces, and Lakeshore beat Hickory twice in 1 weekend both in tough games.
White Marsh also has lost several games to MD Orioles who were smoked. Y the Tide this weekend.
I agree that the Aces don't get the recognition they deserve after seeing them play, but it was for maybe 2 games.
Pitchers at this age aren't consistent enough where you know your ace will throw money every time they step on the field.
So yes rankings are a joke but I also think it keeps it fun for off the field fun, though I know some people will be butt hurt, not saying any names.
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