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Post by John P. on Oct 6, 2020 13:56:53 GMT -5
I can say that travel baseball is a competitive environment and should be taken so. If it's not go to Florida or go to Georgia and play their 10u teams and tell me how good little Johnny is. The problem is not with the kids, it's with the parents flawed judgment of how good their kids is. Baseball is a game of failure and rebuilding all at the same time at this age. Not getting into pitch counts or batting 9 in tournaments. More so getting into the flawed reality of talent and expectations by the parents. I am not saying don't be concerned about your children but just be honest with their still level. Signed:. Middle school all star No one is saying the baseball at 10u is not competitive. People are only trying to say that only batting 9 in a 10u game is absurd. I've been down to FL and other southern states. I've watched the highest level of high school baseball and the majority don't even bat 9 at high level competitive tournaments. High School regular season, yes teams will bat 9. Showcase baseball teams at the high school level dont even bat 9. I just looked at the box scores for WWBA's like the poster above mentioned. He's right. 16 and 17u teams at the highest level dont even bat 9. I also looked at API cavs gamechanger and it looks like they bat the entire roster. Can you honestly say that batting 9 in a 10u game is ok? |
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Post by Wrong again on Oct 6, 2020 13:59:27 GMT -5
Replying to “Wrong”: you must be in this position since you immediately came out and started attacking a coach that you didn’t even know. You’re painting broad strokes probably based off your past experiences. The problem is parent expectations. I would like to know if the coach payed out his plan prior to the season? Did he make it clear that this is what would happen during tournaments? Did he set the expectations ahead of time? Has this parent approached the coach? The person said that his kid played on a different travel team last year, so why did he leave that team? What was his playing time there? Is this new team different? Better? How does the coaching compare? I'm sorry, but any coach that only bats nine in a ten year old game is a fool and should not be coaching. Attacked? No one knows who this coach is so how can he be attacked? |
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Post by Guest on Oct 6, 2020 14:54:08 GMT -5
Replying to “Wrong”: you must be in this position since you immediately came out and started attacking a coach that you didn’t even know. You’re painting broad strokes probably based off your past experiences. The problem is parent expectations. I would like to know if the coach payed out his plan prior to the season? Did he make it clear that this is what would happen during tournaments? Did he set the expectations ahead of time? Has this parent approached the coach? The person said that his kid played on a different travel team last year, so why did he leave that team? What was his playing time there? Is this new team different? Better? How does the coaching compare? I'm sorry, but any coach that only bats nine in a ten year old game is a fool and should not be coaching. Attacked? No one knows who this coach is so how can he be attacked? Lol I've seen 8u teams that only bat 9 how can you say only batting 9 in 10u is being foolish. Everyone has their own method |
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Post by Dumbbutt on Oct 6, 2020 19:40:49 GMT -5
Sorry- the coach only batted 9 kids. My child did not play in the field nor bat the entire weekend. Might be time to open your eyeZ. If your kid did not play all weekend , the problem is right in front of you. If they batted 9 and he did not bat , there’s the problem. The problem is you and your child. If this weekend didn’t open your eyeZ , you’re blind. Your child does not belong on the team. He’s there for a money grab. On ANY TEAM, if your kid is GOOD ENOUGH he will play. If your kid DOES NOT PLAY, he is not good enough. Like you said “ IN YOUR MIND” he’s a pitcher. Be a good parent and remove your child from this team and put him where he belongs. Please don’t say he belongs there. Because if he did , he would’ve played. Shut your mouth 🤐 |
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Post by Concerned Parent Guest on Oct 7, 2020 7:41:13 GMT -5
Sorry- my intention was not start a long drawn out battle here. The coach told the parents that he was only "allowed to bat 9" but of course we saw every other team in the tournament batting the entire lineup. I have since found out from other parents that this may be the norm for this guy. I do not want to argue with the coach in this case since it seems like some do feel this is ok but will certainly be looking for a new team once my child's commitment is fulfilled.
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Post by Unacceptable on Oct 7, 2020 20:47:14 GMT -5
I know what team it is, and it is unacceptable. 10U, bat 9 in a pool play game and win 15-0. There is no good reason for this. This team will fall apart soon enough if the coach continues to manage his team like this. Still lost the championship game too... SMH
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Post by Sad on Oct 8, 2020 8:04:46 GMT -5
Carrying 13 kids only playing 9-10 is not developing kids. Throwing 97 pitches in 3 innings is flat out stupid. There’s a thing called muscle fatigue. Once a player (pitcher) hits that each pitch he throws is the equivalent of 3 pitchers.
We as coaches must to better. Why is it the same conversations over and over.
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Post by Tommy Johns on Oct 8, 2020 8:49:40 GMT -5
This team is going to go down hard. A 10u player throwing 97 pitches in a game is disaster waiting to happen.
One of their pitchers threw 36 on October 3, then threw 75 on October 4. That's 111 in back to back days almost 24 hours apart from each other.
Same scenario: Another pitcher threw 52 on the 3rd, then came back on the 4th and threw 64. That's 116 total in back to back days.
Both pitchers should have been done for the entire weekend, but this coach had them throw more pitches than the previous day. Just goes to show that even though a coach has baseball experience he really doesnt have a clue whats going on
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Post by Tommy Juan 2 on Oct 8, 2020 8:55:08 GMT -5
Ha both coaches kids. Definition of daddy ball
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Post by Been there.... on Oct 9, 2020 11:22:15 GMT -5
I have a son who left for college this summer to play ball at a D2 school down south. Have been around the game since the early 1980s. I jump on this site from time to time to read some of the posts for entertainment and occasionally will chime in...yes anonymously, but for a reason.
I know everyone wants to bash this coach, but let's try to educate him and the parents instead. My son pitched from 7u on and never had arm issues. We stuck to a strict long-toss routine and worked hard in the offseason. I monitored his pitch count like a hawk and told the head coach I would be doing so. Sure, I let him finish a batter and exceed the 20 pitch max by a few on a Saturday to pitch Sunday in non-PG events, but never did I let him throw the kind of numbers mentioned in this post or that other post about the Diamond Elite team. (on another note- did anyone see that video on the Facebook MD Travel that has since been taken down of the 2 pregnant DE moms dancing with their bellys out, while 11 year old kids from the team threw dollar bills at them??? Holy moly, talk about low clbutt....anyway, I digress...)
Just follow pitch smart. It's scientifically proven now, not up for debate. Develop your team to have at least 9 kids who can pitch. If you need to ride the same 4-5 horses all weekend, then you should drop down a level.
Lastly, I see this happening more and more at the 9-12 age level and usually at local (Plastic trophy) tournaments that mean NOTHING. When your kid is a sophomore shut down with a sore elbow or shoulder, will you look back and say...that $7.00 runner up trophy was worth it! I would sure hope not.
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Post by Done that on Oct 9, 2020 12:24:39 GMT -5
I hope Diamond Elite wins their next tournament too. I can't wait to see what they'll post next!
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Post by Stripper Pole on Oct 9, 2020 16:04:45 GMT -5
I have a son who left for college this summer to play ball at a D2 school down south. Have been around the game since the early 1980s. I jump on this site from time to time to read some of the posts for entertainment and occasionally will chime in...yes anonymously, but for a reason. I know everyone wants to bash this coach, but let's try to educate him and the parents instead. My son pitched from 7u on and never had arm issues. We stuck to a strict long-toss routine and worked hard in the offseason. I monitored his pitch count like a hawk and told the head coach I would be doing so. Sure, I let him finish a batter and exceed the 20 pitch max by a few on a Saturday to pitch Sunday in non-PG events, but never did I let him throw the kind of numbers mentioned in this post or that other post about the Diamond Elite team. (on another note- did anyone see that video on the Facebook MD Travel that has since been taken down of the 2 pregnant DE moms dancing with their bellys out, while 11 year old kids from the team threw dollar bills at them??? Holy moly, talk about low clbutt....anyway, I digress...) Just follow pitch smart. It's scientifically proven now, not up for debate. Develop your team to have at least 9 kids who can pitch. If you need to ride the same 4-5 horses all weekend, then you should drop down a level. Lastly, I see this happening more and more at the 9-12 age level and usually at local (Plastic trophy) tournaments that mean NOTHING. When your kid is a sophomore shut down with a sore elbow or shoulder, will you look back and say...that $7.00 runner up trophy was worth it! I would sure hope not. Your kidding ? They let 11 year olds throw money at them. So disgusting. I’m so appalled |
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Post by 5 star - options on Oct 9, 2020 23:07:16 GMT -5
may want to check out five star - looking for 10u kids
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Post by Ted on Oct 12, 2020 17:07:17 GMT -5
If you can write a check they will take you
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