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Post by Friend of Ty-Webb on Jul 13, 2018 14:52:43 GMT -5
The most dbag thing I've seen in youth baseball is making sure "your" team's tryout dates overlap other area teams..... You should want "your" players to go out for multiple teams to get used to the tryout process. You should have enough confidence in your abilities as a coach to not feel the need to schedule the times when everyone else is to allow you to get a look at players that might not come to yours.....But I'm sure it will be some BS excuse as to why every team now needs 3 2 hr dates....... end of rant and "Ta hel wit all dem Couches thrown there Jacks to muc"
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Post by Ty’s good lookin sister on Jul 16, 2018 13:32:25 GMT -5
Some teams...cough cough Gambrills 13u... cough cough...waited until the very last moment to ensure this. Either they purposely overlapped or they are just unorganized.
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Post by Gambrill13u on Jul 16, 2018 15:26:36 GMT -5
Yep, Rawlings announces their 14u tryout date and about 2.5 weeks later Gambrills 14u announces theirs.
14U - Contact Randy Bosley for info Sunday, July 22 and 29 Sunday, August 5 10:00 am - 1:00 pm
14u Team- Rawlings A’s Prospects Sunday, July 29, 2018 @ 12pm/li> Sunday, August 5, 2018 @ 10am
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Post by Batterup on Jul 16, 2018 22:40:09 GMT -5
The most dbag thing I've seen in youth baseball is making sure "your" team's tryout dates overlap other area teams..... You should want "your" players to go out for multiple teams to get used to the tryout process. You should have enough confidence in your abilities as a coach to not feel the need to schedule the times when everyone else is to allow you to get a look at players that might not come to yours.....But I'm sure it will be some BS excuse as to why every team now needs 3 2 hr dates....... end of rant and "Ta hel wit all dem Couches thrown there Jacks to muc" This is the dumbest thing I've heard, there's no reason to worry about what other teams do and when they schedule tryouts. You have some real issues.
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Post by Oldtimers on Jul 16, 2018 22:49:06 GMT -5
Batterup/Bosley..if you feel like you’ll lose your players to Rawlings you do it. Nice try jacka$$. You are losing your best players to Rawlings even after to ty to sabotage tryout dates.
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Post by Batterup on Jul 16, 2018 22:56:09 GMT -5
Batterup/Bosley..if you feel like you’ll lose your players to Rawlings you do it. Nice try jacka$$. You are losing your best players to Rawlings even after to ty to sabotage tryout dates. Lol...I don't know who you are, but you sound real stupid thinking GAC are setting up their dates because they're afraid to lose them. I see you like calling names. How old are you? We got real tough guys on these keyboards...lol
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Post by Randy.Bosley on Jul 16, 2018 23:24:03 GMT -5
Yeah Bosley you don’t have an attitude problem one bit. Maybe that’s why you were thrown out of Elkridge org. Don’t be mad cause you aren’t as slick as you thought and the Rawlings people are calling you out on your tryout scheduling. MR. Bosley the tough guy!
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Post by Batterup on Jul 16, 2018 23:37:26 GMT -5
First if you're implying I'm Bosley you're wrong. I also don't believe Rawlings is calling anyone out. Looks like a few fools or one person using multiple usernames to hide who have no idea what they're talking about, including you.
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Post by oldtimer on Jul 17, 2018 7:44:44 GMT -5
Gambrills has 3-4 players who could easily play for any team they choose so having identical tryout dates has little effect on them.
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Post by Battersup on Jul 17, 2018 8:04:37 GMT -5
...and I bet they lose those 3 players to some other team. Oldtimer, Just because those 3-4 players are good it doesn’t mean other organizations don’t expect them to attend tryout dates. Good coaches promote their players to seek out other tryouts for the experience and not limit them to their own in-house tryouts. How would parents of other kids feel if they see a player show up on a team roster that never had to go through the tryout process? It is very apparent Gambrills copied Rawlings’ tryout dates as the dates and times are similar and Gambrills announced several weeks after Rawlings announced their tryouts.
While we are on the topic why would those 3 players choose to stay with Gambrills when they run such an unorganized outfit? Not only do they sabatoge tryouts for other local teams, but they lack competition. They simply don’t play any of the best teams while Rawlings does.
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Post by oldtimer on Jul 17, 2018 9:11:22 GMT -5
...and I bet they lose those 3 players to some other team. Oldtimer, Just because those 3-4 players are good it doesn’t mean other organizations don’t expect them to attend tryout dates. Good coaches promote their players to seek out other tryouts for the experience and not limit them to their own in-house tryouts. How would parents of other kids feel if they see a player show up on a team roster that never had to go through the tryout process? It is very apparent Gambrills copied Rawlings’ tryout dates as the dates and times are similar and Gambrills announced several weeks after Rawlings announced their tryouts. While we are on the topic why would those 3 players choose to stay with Gambrills when they run such an unorganized outfit? Not only do they sabatoge tryouts for other local teams, but they lack competition. They simply don’t play any of the best teams while Rawlings does. Possible the kids have played together for several years ,are friends and enjoy playing for Gambrills.
Rawlings started as a B team and got good this year when they got Lake Shores best players(and few others) .So if(and no idea this happens) 3 Gambrills kids go to Rawlings and Gambrills folds- again hypothetical. You wouldn't in some way feel bad 2 teams folded because of Rawlings?
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Post by Buttercup on Jul 17, 2018 9:45:33 GMT -5
It is no secret that as kids get older the talent thins out. As kids get older the teams that compete at higher levels thin out as well.
Teams fold due to several reasons: 1. Players can no longer play at the level of play, 2. Players move to other organization for competition opportunities (better or worse), 3. Level of coaching to meet demands, 4. Competition
Lake Shore folded due to all of the above. If Gambrills was smart they would have made a move a year ago to compete with the future Rawlings team. Instead they kept their parent coaches so their kids could get as much playing time as possible at their favorite positions/aka “daddy-ball.” Gambrills had a good squad this season and probably better than recent years. However, they didn’t play anyone good or beat anyone good. They now fall under all four mentioned categories too. Lack of original tryout dates is just the tip of the iceberg. Don’t be surprised when Gambrills doesn’t field a 14u team or have a team that can compete with the top 15. Teams like Rawlings, API, etc have made moves to ensure their continuation. They hire recent college grads or include high school level coaches. They travel and see different competition, and play against the best teams in the state.
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Post by oldtimer on Jul 17, 2018 10:52:49 GMT -5
It is no secret that as kids get older the talent thins out. As kids get older the teams that compete at higher levels thin out as well. Teams fold due to several reasons: 1. Players can no longer play at the level of play, 2. Players move to other organization for competition opportunities (better or worse), 3. Level of coaching to meet demands, 4. Competition Lake Shore folded due to all of the above. If Gambrills was smart they would have made a move a year ago to compete with the future Rawlings team. Instead they kept their parent coaches so their kids could get as much playing time as possible at their favorite positions/aka “daddy-ball.” Gambrills had a good squad this season and probably better than recent years. However, they didn’t play anyone good or beat anyone good. They now fall under all four mentioned categories too. Lack of original tryout dates is just the tip of the iceberg. Don’t be surprised when Gambrills doesn’t field a 14u team or have a team that can compete with the top 15. Teams like Rawlings, API, etc have made moves to ensure their continuation. They hire recent college grads or include high school level coaches. They travel and see different competition, and play against the best teams in the state. You make some good valid points.
Did teams like API and Rawlings(and Digin and Bigbie etc) make moves to ensure continuation? Or (while i'm not criticizing their integrity) because someone makes a profit unlike local organizations. More kids and teams mean more dues more lessons etc etc. Just saying..........
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Post by RawlingsFan101 on Jul 17, 2018 11:14:57 GMT -5
Yes this is true. While a team like API hired out to two former college players that recently graduated I’m sure there was an additional fee of anywhere between $200-$500 per kid. In other notoriously baseball heavy states this is quite common. Rawlings did have father-coaches at the 13u level, but it appears they will be paying a former high school coach to take over the team. Rawlings has their fare share of issues and it stemmed around the father-coach combination. They are not perfect by any means and quite similar to Gambrills. As far as hiring out coaches, several area teams are doing the same and I think it is appropriate at the 13u and beyond age groups. Unless the father-coach played at the college level and/or has an understanding of what it takes to be a transformative coach, than there needs to be an end of the father-coach somewhere around the mentioned age group. It doesn’t take long for a father-coach that can’t keep his bias opinion under wraps to be exposed.
More lessons, more dues, more money is unavoidable at the older age groups. At this point the talents thins, kids quit the sport to find some other activity that brings success, or a huge separation in competitive play takes place. Some teams try to stick together, but usually find out the level of play that they once were isn’t quite where they thought they are presently and it usually takes place at bigger tournaments. Once these kids get into high school it is only a matter of time before the well-known organizations like Rawlings, EvoShield, Diamond Pros, etc to take on the better high school players so they can showcase their skills to college scouts. The kids that have the advantage at the 13/14u level are the ones that won’t be in high school yet and can play and extra year of youth baseball with the BBCOR bat and not have the pressure of having to play fall and spring ball for their high school club team.
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Post by gambrills13u on Jul 17, 2018 12:26:25 GMT -5
It’s not hard to figure out that there is one person here stiring the pot and bashing me. This person changes there screen name on every other post they make. They did it to me in this post naming themselves randy.bosley. Gambrill13U. They have done it to OldTimer and just did it to BatterUp In This same post. I know who it is and this impersonation will be dealt with threw the right channels. It will be reported to ProBoards under there impersonation policy and if it doesn’t stop then they suggest reporting it to the police as cyber bullying. It will be dealt with appropriately.
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