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May 17, 2019 12:52:12 GMT -5
Post by dopeman427 on May 17, 2019 12:52:12 GMT -5
1 Evo Shield Canes MD Scott
2. Frederick Hustlers
3. Olney Pirates
4. Mid Maryland United
5. HCYP Raiders
6. PG Select
7. WHC Renegades
8. Central MD Cyclones
9. BCC Big Train
10. White Marsh Warriors
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13U
May 17, 2019 12:53:31 GMT -5
Post by dopeman427 on May 17, 2019 12:53:31 GMT -5
Curious how WM is 10th at 25-3 while beating Central MD 12-4 and beating HCYP 5-1...Would seem they should be a little higher
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13U
Jun 6, 2019 12:06:40 GMT -5
Post by GAC on Jun 6, 2019 12:06:40 GMT -5
GAC is 27-7 on the season and should be considered for one of the top rankings.
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Jun 6, 2019 12:56:47 GMT -5
Post by Really??? on Jun 6, 2019 12:56:47 GMT -5
GAC guy you can't rely on GAC having a good rep and get in the rankings. The 13u team has not beat one team in the top 10. They haven't even played them (except for White Marsh #10 and lost). 34 games and only 1 game vs. any of the top 10 teams in these rankings. That's called avoiding being exposed. Record mean zero if you play borderline rec ball teams every week. Line up games with Evoshield, HCYP Blue, Frederick, MMU, and Olney. Win just one of those 5 games and I will say you deserve a top 10. This falls on your coach, Play a weak schedule and you do not get rewarded here. CBA 13u = Rec ball 13u.
Your other teams at Gambrills play the top teams. The 14's just had what may have been the best round robin I ever saw. HS coaches from all over were there scouting kids. It was excellent baseball. I was there, my kid plays on McDonald's Canes team. Your 12u is probably the best 12u team in Maryland. It's either them or Olney. They play all the top teams and tourneys and win. Saw on PG site they Darn near won a PG!!!! I just pulled your 11 and 10 year old teams there off CRAB. They both in CRAB and succeeding. And playing good tourneys according to their GC schedules.
GAC guy, Get your coach (maybe that's you) and line up these 5 games. Then we can talk. Until then enjoy your record.
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13U
Jun 6, 2019 20:44:41 GMT -5
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Post by Correct on Jun 6, 2019 20:44:41 GMT -5
GAC guy you can't rely on GAC having a good rep and get in the rankings. The 13u team has not beat one team in the top 10. They haven't even played them (except for White Marsh #10 and lost). 34 games and only 1 game vs. any of the top 10 teams in these rankings. That's called avoiding being exposed. Record mean zero if you play borderline rec ball teams every week. Line up games with Evoshield, HCYP Blue, Frederick, MMU, and Olney. Win just one of those 5 games and I will say you deserve a top 10. This falls on your coach, Play a weak schedule and you do not get rewarded here. CBA 13u = Rec ball 13u. Your other teams at Gambrills play the top teams. The 14's just had what may have been the best round robin I ever saw. HS coaches from all over were there scouting kids. It was excellent baseball. I was there, my kid plays on McDonald's Canes team. Your 12u is probably the best 12u team in Maryland. It's either them or Olney. They play all the top teams and tourneys and win. Saw on PG site they Darn near won a PG!!!! I just pulled your 11 and 10 year old teams there off CRAB. They both in CRAB and succeeding. And playing good tourneys according to their GC schedules. GAC guy, Get your coach (maybe that's you) and line up these 5 games. Then we can talk. Until then enjoy your record. Right on, the only good teams Gambrills has played is Mid-Atlantic shockers Hudson , lost twice. Central MD cyclones, loss. White Marsh , loss. They also lost to Severna Park, very weak team. Out of the 27 wins not one is what would be considered a top 20 team in MD at the 13u age group this year. |
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Jun 6, 2019 21:03:23 GMT -5
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Post by Also on Jun 6, 2019 21:03:23 GMT -5
Olney is too high this year. They’re not the dominant team they were at this age in the past years. Yes the Canes Scott team is probably the best MD 13u team but that’s just a tournament team with kids from several regular travel teams. Bagel Bombers Hocker belong up there, and I can think of a handful of other teams that could be on this list even if they don’t play in CRAB. There are a few other really good teams that are too far away to play in that league that hold up very good against the CRAB teams. A couple in Southern MD and a few over on the shore that often get overlooked but perform good in head to head against many teams in this list or in tournaments in VA against their better teams.
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Jun 6, 2019 21:59:22 GMT -5
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Post by Canes13u on Jun 6, 2019 21:59:22 GMT -5
Olney is too high this year. They’re not the dominant team they were at this age in the past years. Yes the Canes Scott team is probably the best MD 13u team but that’s just a tournament team with kids from several regular travel teams. Bagel Bombers Hocker belong up there, and I can think of a handful of other teams that could be on this list even if they don’t play in CRAB. There are a few other really good teams that are too far away to play in that league that hold up very good against the CRAB teams. A couple in Southern MD and a few over on the shore that often get overlooked but perform good in head to head against many teams in this list or in tournaments in VA against their better teams. Olney has lost some of the depth and good players but has still played in 4 tournaments (Annapolis, Mutiny, MSI, and Sports at the Beach) and has reached the championship of all 4 events. If the Bagel Bombers are considered a MD team they would be near the top but I would consider them more of a Delaware team. Frederick should be at the top. My Canes team will be a full time tournament team starting this fall as Spring 2019 team commitments come to an end. I have also run the crab league since this age group was 9 so I have a very good feel/understanding of the competition. This is a great forum to debate and discuss. |
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13U
Jun 11, 2019 14:24:05 GMT -5
Post by my guess 6/15 rankings on Jun 11, 2019 14:24:05 GMT -5
Its not easy to settle on a ranking, and there is no right answer for sure.
I also eliminated Canes for this season, but they will be #1 when players commit full time.
The teams that lose 2/3 top players to canes will drop or drop completely out in the rankings. Couldn't count top players on both rosters.
1 Frederick Hustlers
2 White Marsh Warriors
3 HCYP Raiders
4 Olney Pirates
5 WHC Renegades
6 BCC Big Train
7 LakeShore Graysox
8 Mid Maryland United
9 Delmarva Aces East
10 Calvert Tide Green
11 Maryland Baseball Club
12 PG Select
13 Central MD Cyclones
Shout out to two teams with great records- Burtonsville Storm and Gambrills, but no marquis wins and weak schedules.
Curious to see what the Staff comes up with
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13U
Jun 11, 2019 22:48:21 GMT -5
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Post by You’re right on Jun 11, 2019 22:48:21 GMT -5
Its not easy to settle on a ranking, and there is no right answer for sure. I also eliminated Canes for this season, but they will be #1 when players commit full time. The teams that lose 2/3 top players to canes will drop or drop completely out in the rankings. Couldn't count top players on both rosters. 1 Frederick Hustlers 2 White Marsh Warriors 3 HCYP Raiders 4 Olney Pirates 5 WHC Renegades 6 BCC Big Train 7 LakeShore Graysox 8 Mid Maryland United 9 Delmarva Aces East 10 Calvert Tide Green 11 Maryland Baseball Club 12 PG Select 13 Central MD Cyclones Shout out to two teams with great records- Burtonsville Storm and Gambrills, but no marquis wins and weak schedules. Curious to see what the Staff comes up with Not a bad guess. I’d move HCYP down the list a bit and WHC up a bit. Also just outside the top ten or maybe even squeaking in, you have Elkridge, BlackSox Collison, Mid-Atlantic Shockers Hudson. I don’t care about record one bit. Look at Diamond Skills! Not a good record but they’re consistently playing tough teams. They’d get more consideration from me vs GAC or Burtonsville. The teams that play up, or consistently scheduling quality teams is who should be looked at looked at |
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Jun 12, 2019 6:42:50 GMT -5
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Post by Slink on Jun 12, 2019 6:42:50 GMT -5
IMO,
Those are pretty solid rankings thrown out. I don’t believe you can get much from H2H in CRAB play as most of the games looks like their tourney tuneups and working some arms and secondary positions for kids. Even though DS Dodgers has played a lot of those games close, they’re probably not seeing the battery that some of those teams would normally go with (and maybe they’re not either). They have a loss to their own Astros as the 1 seed in Stars and Strikes B division which, even as just 1 game (they came off the only Bye), really hurts their overall look.
The Astros are likely to finish MABA A in the top half, which based on the CBA Elite=Rec ball reference from earlier, I can’t wait to hear from MABA A is compared to.
Take nothing away from DS playing CRAB teams and their tourney schedule. They’re playing the best available and not rolling over so their kids and coaches are working to get better every week.
On the other hand, Burtonsville, who steamrolled through MABA B, takes a loss last night to probably solidify their (WAY) too easy schedule thus far.
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Jun 12, 2019 7:12:03 GMT -5
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Post by Slink on Jun 12, 2019 7:12:03 GMT -5
Correction CBA = Rec ball...I guess that’s the entirety of CBA 13u
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13U
Jun 12, 2019 7:29:41 GMT -5
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Post by oldtimer on Jun 12, 2019 7:29:41 GMT -5
Looks like many of the teams in MABA Atlantic are B teams.
Why any half way decent team would choose to play In the Piedmont
Is beyond me but in my opinion deserves no consideration at all in
Any rankings discussion.
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13U
Jun 12, 2019 8:06:56 GMT -5
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Post by BBCOR on Jun 12, 2019 8:06:56 GMT -5
i don’t know the 13’s as well as some other ages. So for rankings i can’t do much. But i can make a few broad statements.
1. All CBA and MABA B teams are far below where they need to be to get their kids on their HS teams.
2. Find a team that has played DN, PG, or a Triple Crown and give them a high ranking. That coach seeks the best of the best. SATB and Ripken are both overpriced now and the quality of baseball has fallen way off.
3. Find a 13u team that has played up at 14 in either league play or tourneys and swung the BBCOR bat. Rank them way up there. That coach gets it. Most of these 13u teams have 1/3 or some even 1/2 their players in the 8th grade. This BS 1.15 on the 90 foot field needs to go. Get a BBCOR in their hands at 13u, it’s the rest of their baseball career unless they sign pro, then it’s wood.
4. A coach from 8u to 13u job is to develop his players for HS. Then he turns them over. Want to do a real ranking for 13u? Do it after those kids get into HS. Winning at 13u means nothing. Swing a HS bat now and playing in HS means everything. Would be pretty cool for someone to rank these teams based off of their HS success.
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Jun 12, 2019 9:36:26 GMT -5
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Post by Slink on Jun 12, 2019 9:36:26 GMT -5
i don’t know the 13’s as well as some other ages. So for rankings i can’t do much. But i can make a few broad statements. 1. All CBA and MABA B teams are far below where they need to be to get their kids on their HS teams. 2. Find a team that has played DN, PG, or a Triple Crown and give them a high ranking. That coach seeks the best of the best. SATB and Ripken are both overpriced now and the quality of baseball has fallen way off. 3. Find a 13u team that has played up at 14 in either league play or tourneys and swung the BBCOR bat. Rank them way up there. That coach gets it. Most of these 13u teams have 1/3 or some even 1/2 their players in the 8th grade. This BS 1.15 on the 90 foot field needs to go. Get a BBCOR in their hands at 13u, it’s the rest of their baseball career unless they sign pro, then it’s wood. 4. A coach from 8u to 13u job is to develop his players for HS. Then he turns them over. Want to do a real ranking for 13u? Do it after those kids get into HS. Winning at 13u means nothing. Swing a HS bat now and playing in HS means everything. Would be pretty cool for someone to rank these teams based off of their HS success. Not to hijack the thread, but 13 is the dominant age of have and have nots ..have hit puberty and have not (some a year or two before). Does putting BBCOR in the hands of a smaller kid now have a benefit for them as they get bigger stronger and hone their craft at the plate? At the price of getting out say 50 percent more? Definitely agree on making calls when they’re older because none of this means anything now but then we wouldn’t have the board for any discussion. |
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Jun 13, 2019 9:07:42 GMT -5
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Post by BBCOR on Jun 13, 2019 9:07:42 GMT -5
Best to use heavier bats as soon as possible
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