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Post by Wayne L on Jan 11, 2022 11:16:43 GMT -5
Someone of yall have no clue. The numbers arent even close What is it that we have no clue about? Looks like everyone is having a decent debate and sharing opinions. You saying something doesn't make it right. Same as everyone else here. Maybe Papi isn't the only one who should humble himself. Your right nothing wrong with a debate. Rather have that conversation then what typically takes place on here but for my guy to say hands down. Imo it wasnt even close on a numbers scale. I do know when its h2h what the out come is. Mono E Mono
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Post by Wayne L on Jan 11, 2022 11:18:35 GMT -5
Someone of yall have no clue. The numbers arent even close What is it that we have no clue about? Looks like everyone is having a decent debate and sharing opinions. You saying something doesn't make it right. Same as everyone else here. Maybe Papi isn't the only one who should humble himself. hope both go on to do great things
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Post by The great debate on Jan 11, 2022 12:11:38 GMT -5
Average #9 Power #11 Fielding #11 Pitching #9 Bases/Speed Equal
The discerning factor is intangible and families and we all know who wins that one and if you think for a second that coaches don’t look at that your crazy. So it’s not hands down either way and it’s 1a and 1b then there is a big gap to whoever number 3 is
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Post by Great Breakdown on Jan 11, 2022 12:20:32 GMT -5
Average #9 Power #11 Fielding #11 Pitching #9 Bases/Speed Equal The discerning factor is intangible and families and we all know who wins that one and if you think for a second that coaches don’t look at that your crazy. So it’s not hands down either way and it’s 1a and 1b then there is a big gap to whoever number 3 is perfect breakdown. Much more than stats/numbers. #11 is actually a great kid and humble. Papi is the factor.
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Post by So then on Jan 11, 2022 13:57:58 GMT -5
If the cut off was September 1st people would still complain that the September kids are bigger than the August kids. Wait until high school. Be a freshman against seniors then see. But now there are parents holding kids back so they'll be sophomore aged playing as a freshman. Red shirting in high school. There's alway going to be someone bigger faster stronger no matter where you play. Youth baseball not high school I know it's 12u not high school. Statement was made because no matter which way you breakdown ages someone's always going to be younger. And someone is always going to try to work the system. Holding kids back in middle school so they can be older in their clbutt in high school.
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Post by Wayne L on Jan 11, 2022 18:07:06 GMT -5
Average #9 Power #11 Fielding #11 Pitching #9 Bases/Speed Equal The discerning factor is intangible and families and we all know who wins that one and if you think for a second that coaches don’t look at that your crazy. So it’s not hands down either way and it’s 1a and 1b then there is a big gap to whoever number 3 is I agree with everything but fielding.
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Post by Wayne L on Jan 11, 2022 21:13:37 GMT -5
Average #9 Power #11 Fielding #11 Pitching #9 Bases/Speed Equal The discerning factor is intangible and families and we all know who wins that one and if you think for a second that coaches don’t look at that your crazy. So it’s not hands down either way and it’s 1a and 1b then there is a big gap to whoever number 3 is I agree with everything but fielding. a good friend and i just had a discussion and jimbo made some good points. Hard to put a full time SS against a kid that plays SS 30% of the time which is a good argument So i will go back on my statement and give the edge to 11 on fielding
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Catching isn't fielding
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Post by Catching isn't fielding on Jan 11, 2022 21:30:36 GMT -5
I agree with everything but fielding. a good friend and i just had a discussion and jimbo made some good points. Hard to put a full time SS against a kid that plays SS 30% of the time which is a good argument So i will go back on my statement and give the edge to 11 on fielding So only playing SS 100% is fielding? Catching doesn't count for anything? Doesn't 9 catch mostly?
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Post by Wayne L on Jan 11, 2022 22:51:22 GMT -5
a good friend and i just had a discussion and jimbo made some good points. Hard to put a full time SS against a kid that plays SS 30% of the time which is a good argument So i will go back on my statement and give the edge to 11 on fielding So only playing SS 100% is fielding? Catching doesn't count for anything? Doesn't 9 catch mostly? Yes id say he catches 75% of the time Let me ask you is catching fielding??
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Post by Scout on Jan 12, 2022 12:06:18 GMT -5
You guys realize that you're wasting your time ranking players and teams for that matter at 12u, right? I have a senior in HS and he played on a very competitive Olney team. Out of that cluster of 12 kids from his 12u team, only 6 dudes still play baseball.
Before you say, but it is fun and for entertainment only, my response would be... this is how you entertain yourself? By ranking kids?? Get a life and take your kid to the cage to get better.
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Post by Curious on Jan 12, 2022 12:13:47 GMT -5
You guys realize that you're wasting your time ranking players and teams for that matter at 12u, right? I have a senior in HS and he played on a very competitive Olney team. Out of that cluster of 12 kids from his 12u team, only 6 dudes still play baseball. Before you say, but it is fun and for entertainment only, my response would be... this is how you entertain yourself? By ranking kids?? Get a life and take your kid to the cage to get better. And out of those 6 kids left how many played HS. And how many have a chance to play college?
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Post by Duh on Jan 12, 2022 12:49:02 GMT -5
You guys realize that you're wasting your time ranking players and teams for that matter at 12u, right? I have a senior in HS and he played on a very competitive Olney team. Out of that cluster of 12 kids from his 12u team, only 6 dudes still play baseball. Before you say, but it is fun and for entertainment only, my response would be... this is how you entertain yourself? By ranking kids?? Get a life and take your kid to the cage to get better. And out of those 6 kids left how many played HS. And how many have a chance to play college? If 6 of 12 are still playing and his son is a senior in HS wouldn’t that equate to 6 are playing high school? Not to many teams will take you for summer ball at that age of 17 or 18u if you can’t make the high school team.
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Post by Coach rankings on Jan 12, 2022 14:10:10 GMT -5
You guys realize that you're wasting your time ranking players and teams for that matter at 12u, right? I have a senior in HS and he played on a very competitive Olney team. Out of that cluster of 12 kids from his 12u team, only 6 dudes still play baseball. Before you say, but it is fun and for entertainment only, my response would be... this is how you entertain yourself? By ranking kids?? Get a life and take your kid to the cage to get better. Totally agree. It’s silly and just for parents to somehow think their pre-pubescent sons baseball talent reflects favorably on their parenting skills…or for the worst, that they’ll play D1 on a ship or pro ball. Let’s rank the coaches. Some good metrics would be - how many players return year after year. Especially the below average players on the team. Improvement would be more important than wins What else?
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Post by GAC!!! on Jan 12, 2022 14:19:39 GMT -5
GAC!!!
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Post by Very interesting on Jan 12, 2022 14:30:48 GMT -5
You guys realize that you're wasting your time ranking players and teams for that matter at 12u, right? I have a senior in HS and he played on a very competitive Olney team. Out of that cluster of 12 kids from his 12u team, only 6 dudes still play baseball. Before you say, but it is fun and for entertainment only, my response would be... this is how you entertain yourself? By ranking kids?? Get a life and take your kid to the cage to get better. Totally agree. It’s silly and just for parents to somehow think their pre-pubescent sons baseball talent reflects favorably on their parenting skills…or for the worst, that they’ll play D1 on a ship or pro ball. Let’s rank the coaches. Some good metrics would be - how many players return year after year. Especially the below average players on the team. Improvement would be more important than wins What else? Now that right there is a very interesting discussion and debate. Best over all coaching for our youth today.
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