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Post by manbun on May 7, 2019 21:20:41 GMT -5
I been to probably a dozen HS baseball games in the last 2 weeks and on average I counted at least 4 bunts between the 2 competing teams in each game. I watched multiple teams play over that 2 weeks, and some bunts were to move runners, some for base hits, and then it made me wonder what the bunt police would say about all that bunting on the big field and at the high school level. I actually saw 3 bunts in a row to load the bases, then a walk off single. #bunt
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Post by bgbd astros on May 7, 2019 21:40:25 GMT -5
They dont bunt because they’re training their kids like an MLB guy would play. Clueless guys that probably believe in the launch angle revolution too #buntmore
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Post by stevesaraullo18 on May 7, 2019 22:15:19 GMT -5
Just watched the cubbies bunt Dave! Guess we aren’t teaching kids the right way still... oh and MLB network is doing a whole segment on it🤔🤔🤷♂️🤷♂️
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Post by Crash on May 8, 2019 4:24:19 GMT -5
Think about this. What is your main goal? If it’s to get your player to the next level, and for 11u coaches that level would be HS then what is your goal by bunting kids. Please let a HS coach chime in and say they have ever had kids bunt during their HS tryouts or even soon after. It may be a strategy move to win at HS, college, and even MLB. But every time you bunt a player you decrease his chance of making that HS team. But you do quite possibly improve your chances of winning that particular 11u baseball game played God knows where on a Wednesday night in May. “Hey fellas, welcome to the tryouts for Joe Schmo HS today. After we run the 60, take ground balls and fly balls, throw for arm strength, and see who can actually hit, we will all convene over here at the end of this tryout to see who can get a Sac Bunt down perfectly.” Keep bunting to win those 11u games, and I even bet your teams parents think you are an amazing coach teaching the “right way” to play the game. Right up until their kid gets cut at age 14.
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Post by Bunt FBI on May 8, 2019 5:39:46 GMT -5
Anyone supporting bunting at 11u in no way shape or form played above high school and was successful. If you did please enlighten us with your high level of knowledge and experience.
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Post by slugger on May 8, 2019 8:06:33 GMT -5
If you have a son you wouldn't let him bunt in 11u?
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Post by prjr on May 8, 2019 8:16:10 GMT -5
If you have a son you wouldn't let him bunt in 11u? Bunting 1-2 times per game in the right situation is ok— bunting over 15 times a game and with bases loaded -no outs- 0-0 score it’s hilarious. |
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Post by prjr on May 8, 2019 8:17:18 GMT -5
If you have a son you wouldn't let him bunt in 11u? Bunting 1-2 times per game in the right situation is ok— bunting over 15 times a game and with bases loaded -no outs- 0-0 score it’s hilarious. 3rd inning I forgot to add |
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Post by Bunt FBI on May 8, 2019 8:20:29 GMT -5
Yes, of course in the right circumstance. There was a previous thread in which teams were bunting 6-10 times per game. Bunting is awesome and when the score is tied in the bottom of the 7th inning with one runner on and you need to move him over as an example. Put a wood bat in their hands and practice hitting the right way. Which leads me next to the 9u-11u kids using 2 3/4 barrels. They literally just stick the bat out and think its successful in getting a hit. It's apparent once they get to bbcor and can’t hit the ball out of the infield. 80 kids are showing up at Broadneck, Arundel, and Severna Park trying out. 25 are usually on roster. 10-12 actually play. Bunting and circus running ends at 13/14 so why make it a focus at 10/11 years old?
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Post by prjr on May 8, 2019 8:27:12 GMT -5
Yes, of course in the right circumstance. There was a previous thread in which teams were bunting 6-10 times per game. Bunting is awesome and when the score is tied in the bottom of the 7th inning with one runner on and you need to move him over as an example. Put a wood bat in their hands and practice hitting the right way. Which leads me next to the 9u-11u kids using 2 3/4 barrels. They literally just stick the bat out and think its successful in getting a hit. It's apparent once they get to bbcor and can’t hit the ball out of the infield. 80 kids are showing up at Broadneck, Arundel, and Severna Park trying out. 25 are usually on roster. 10-12 actually play. Bunting and circus running ends at 13/14 so why make it a focus at 10/11 years old? Exactly!! |
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Post by stevesaraullo18 on May 8, 2019 9:51:38 GMT -5
Fellas...: I am gonna say this.
The bottom line is we all having coaching styles that different. Are there some things that I agree with that have been said yes. The bottom line is this, would you as a parent be ok with loosing close games consistently ? Maybe instead of just B!£ching and complaining about 2 specific teams why don’t you learn to defend it? Isn’t that something that teams from high-school up to MLB practice ?
Look to me it’s not all about wins. But everyone here keeps talking about development, that usually why we have our kid play travel ball, batter competition, better coaching, and to win games.
And instead of hiding behind a name come out say who you are...
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Post by DHicks on May 8, 2019 10:11:44 GMT -5
I am a fan of letting kids hit away and using a bunt to move runner. It is all situational, including the player in the batters box, but there can be a great lesson learned from a sacrifice bunt. It teaches sacrifice and humility.
No one player is bigger than the team. If you are a parent and get mad because your son had to lay down a bunt, than you must think your son is bigger than the team and that is a problem.
Should coaches be focused on winning? Yes, but only because it is a good indicator of doing things the "right way."
Coaches should employ a balanced coaching style that instills a winning attitude in their athletes, and making sure winning comes from following rules, fair play, and learning the intricate details of the game that stimulates growth. This coach will see the individual standing in the batters box and make a sound decision on what to do next. For some players, it may be to lay down a sac bunt. For some players, swing away. It all depends on the player and THEIR needs. Hopefully, coaches have laid the seeds of trust and the player will understand their sacrifice. If not, there needs to be a conversation.
When a coach employs a "growth only" or transactional approach than they are only focused on winning at all costs. They are not concerned with the individual and will use any method available to win. He will bunt any player at any time just to win. Typically, players and parents will be upset and there are no conversations.
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Post by Enlightener on May 8, 2019 11:15:21 GMT -5
Anyone supporting bunting at 11u in no way shape or form played above high school and was successful. If you did please enlighten us with your high level of knowledge and experience. Well Larry Sheets bunts all the time over at Gilman - but I guess your 1 year sitting the bench in Community College trumps his 8 year MLB career as far as knowledge and experience. |
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Post by Bunt FBI on May 8, 2019 11:32:05 GMT -5
Lol, awesome stuff. I know Larry and the bunting is situational which I have already described above. Ask him about bunting at 11U when you get a chance.
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Post by DHicks on May 8, 2019 11:42:00 GMT -5
Anyone supporting bunting at 11u in no way shape or form played above high school and was successful. If you did please enlighten us with your high level of knowledge and experience. Well Larry Sheets bunts all the time over at Gilman - but I guess your 1 year sitting the bench in Community College trumps his 8 year MLB career as far as knowledge and experience. I have followed Gilman for the past two seasons and their bunting is situational, plus it is MIAA baseball where runs can be hard to manufacture. My son will be playing for Coach Sheets and I'm sure he will have no problem laying a bunt down if needed. However, 11u baseball is totally different and should be used with caution. Hard to compare MIAA baseball and 11u. Different environment, players, experience level, etc. |
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